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		<title>Comment on Why pay-freeze the civil servants then stand by and watch the price of living go through the roof? by It is me</title>
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		<dc:creator>It is me</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Oct 2011 09:31:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The advantages of Public Sector wages to Private Sector wages are :

1) On average 10% more
2) More perks (flexi time, holidays, sickness benefit etc..)
3) Better pension contributions.

Maybe not in all cases but in the majority of cases, the above applies.

Can&#039;t afford this difference anymore so it&#039;s about time the public sector are brought into the real world.&lt;br&gt;&lt;b&gt;References : &lt;/b&gt;&lt;br&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The advantages of Public Sector wages to Private Sector wages are :</p>
<p>1) On average 10% more<br />
2) More perks (flexi time, holidays, sickness benefit etc..)<br />
3) Better pension contributions.</p>
<p>Maybe not in all cases but in the majority of cases, the above applies.</p>
<p>Can&#8217;t afford this difference anymore so it&#8217;s about time the public sector are brought into the real world.<br /><b>References : </b></p>
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		<title>Comment on Why pay-freeze the civil servants then stand by and watch the price of living go through the roof? by Fairdo4all</title>
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		<dc:creator>Fairdo4all</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Oct 2011 09:15:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Because nearly everyone else is pay frozen as well.&lt;br&gt;&lt;b&gt;References : &lt;/b&gt;&lt;br&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Because nearly everyone else is pay frozen as well.<br /><b>References : </b></p>
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		<title>Comment on I had a roofing company come out to take a look at my roof last week,they gave me a decent estimate? by c_kayak_fun</title>
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		<dc:creator>c_kayak_fun</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Oct 2011 09:12:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I ran into that years ago when I tried to get some quotes for roofing and siding my house.  The contractors who do that are usually in cahoots with consumer loan companies who charge ridiculous interest and fees.  If you look at the &quot;loan&quot; they say they will arrange for you, it will show high rates and fees -- not worth it!  The contractor gets a kick-back or percentage from the loan company for getting you to take out the loan.  

Even people with not so great credit can often get a bank home equity loan because the house they own is the security on the loan (of course, you need to have a good amount of paid off equity in it to cover that.)  At this point such loans are very low interest, like less than 5%, if you can qualify.  Those &quot;consumer loans&quot; that the roofers are likely pushing may be as much as 25% to 35% a year in interest and fees.  Over 13 years you would pay more than they whole house cost just for the roofing job.  No bargain there.&lt;br&gt;&lt;b&gt;References : &lt;/b&gt;&lt;br&gt;30 years in the building and contracting business myself.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I ran into that years ago when I tried to get some quotes for roofing and siding my house.  The contractors who do that are usually in cahoots with consumer loan companies who charge ridiculous interest and fees.  If you look at the &quot;loan&quot; they say they will arrange for you, it will show high rates and fees &#8212; not worth it!  The contractor gets a kick-back or percentage from the loan company for getting you to take out the loan.  </p>
<p>Even people with not so great credit can often get a bank home equity loan because the house they own is the security on the loan (of course, you need to have a good amount of paid off equity in it to cover that.)  At this point such loans are very low interest, like less than 5%, if you can qualify.  Those &quot;consumer loans&quot; that the roofers are likely pushing may be as much as 25% to 35% a year in interest and fees.  Over 13 years you would pay more than they whole house cost just for the roofing job.  No bargain there.<br /><b>References : </b><br />30 years in the building and contracting business myself.</p>
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		<title>Comment on I had a roofing company come out to take a look at my roof last week,they gave me a decent estimate? by Nesquick</title>
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		<dc:creator>Nesquick</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Oct 2011 09:05:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I wouldn&#039;t trust them. They sound shady.  Find another roofing company. These guys are up to something.  Bet when the actual time comes to repair, that estimate is going to go up higher. They probably give a decent estimate to get you to trust them then they pull this home loan thing on you and then you trust them to do your roof but then they&#039;ll jack up the price as time goes on.
There are other roofing companies out there who will give you a decent price without the shady side dealings.&lt;br&gt;&lt;b&gt;References : &lt;/b&gt;&lt;br&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I wouldn&#8217;t trust them. They sound shady.  Find another roofing company. These guys are up to something.  Bet when the actual time comes to repair, that estimate is going to go up higher. They probably give a decent estimate to get you to trust them then they pull this home loan thing on you and then you trust them to do your roof but then they&#8217;ll jack up the price as time goes on.<br />
There are other roofing companies out there who will give you a decent price without the shady side dealings.<br /><b>References : </b></p>
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		<title>Comment on what is the price of a new cedar shake roof for a 3600 sq ft home? by REAL SLATER</title>
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		<dc:creator>REAL SLATER</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Sep 2011 11:24:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>i install roofs using only time tested materials and techniques so i have plenty of experience with cedar. first of all it is not &quot;expensive&quot;. big box stores have turned most americans against anything that is not cheap and temporary. cedar will last twice as long as modern asphalt, will age gracefully (that is look better with age instead of worse), and you won&#039;t have the guilt of dealing with cheap toxic junk that is crowding our landfills and destroying the character of our homes. yes it will cost more than some ego driven white guy sending out his guys he picked up at home depot to slap some shingles as fast as they can to fulfill your &quot;contract&quot;. but a good cedar roof is totally worth investing in. it sounds like you&#039;re a homeowner trying to put the numbers together. i&#039;m sure you already priced the shingles but please understand there are more materials involved in a proper wood roof. the labor number should be somewhere between 4 and 7 dollars a sf or 400 to 700 per square. i install most of my shakes and shingles in the bahamas and i usually get closer to the higher end of those numbers but i also install in the US from up north to down south and a good installer shouldn&#039;t get less than 4. my best advise to you is to seek out a good INSTALLER, not a contractor.....i need to repeat this DO NOT HIRE A CONTRACTOR TO INSTALL A REAL ROOF. what a contractor does is in his title and it is NOT installing roofs. today roofing contractors in the US pretty much only deal with asphalt shingles and can&#039;t tell you much more than what&#039;s in the asphalt brochure. pretend you are a contractor for ten minutes and you will clearly see that it is in their best interest to cheat you. im not saying they&#039;re all bad but that system has been extremely counterproductive and has left a trail of cheap ugly roofs that constantly need to be replaced all across america. i&#039;m sure you&#039;re on the right track even just thinking of using something real on your roof now you have to weed out all the liars and find someone who is real and capable of installing your roof properly. TEST everyone! don&#039;t forget this is a buyers market. look at their work, talk to their customers. if they say it&#039;s going to last 30yrs demand to see the 30yr old roof. this simple tip should weed out 90% of the fakers.....ask them if they will install cedar on a plywood deck if they say yes walk away. the most important thing about installing any kind of wood roof is breathe-ability. anyone qualified to install a wood roof should understand this completely. i wish you all the best. i travel anywhere for real roofs but i&#039;m not cheap. i know guys in a lot of states if you&#039;re interested in a referral feel free to email me. but you can find all of this on your own if you just make the TRUTH your guide.&lt;br&gt;&lt;b&gt;References : &lt;/b&gt;&lt;br&gt;15yrs experience installing permanent natural roofs

http://www.youtube.com/user/REALSLATER</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i install roofs using only time tested materials and techniques so i have plenty of experience with cedar. first of all it is not &quot;expensive&quot;. big box stores have turned most americans against anything that is not cheap and temporary. cedar will last twice as long as modern asphalt, will age gracefully (that is look better with age instead of worse), and you won&#8217;t have the guilt of dealing with cheap toxic junk that is crowding our landfills and destroying the character of our homes. yes it will cost more than some ego driven white guy sending out his guys he picked up at home depot to slap some shingles as fast as they can to fulfill your &quot;contract&quot;. but a good cedar roof is totally worth investing in. it sounds like you&#8217;re a homeowner trying to put the numbers together. i&#8217;m sure you already priced the shingles but please understand there are more materials involved in a proper wood roof. the labor number should be somewhere between 4 and 7 dollars a sf or 400 to 700 per square. i install most of my shakes and shingles in the bahamas and i usually get closer to the higher end of those numbers but i also install in the US from up north to down south and a good installer shouldn&#8217;t get less than 4. my best advise to you is to seek out a good INSTALLER, not a contractor&#8230;..i need to repeat this DO NOT HIRE A CONTRACTOR TO INSTALL A REAL ROOF. what a contractor does is in his title and it is NOT installing roofs. today roofing contractors in the US pretty much only deal with asphalt shingles and can&#8217;t tell you much more than what&#8217;s in the asphalt brochure. pretend you are a contractor for ten minutes and you will clearly see that it is in their best interest to cheat you. im not saying they&#8217;re all bad but that system has been extremely counterproductive and has left a trail of cheap ugly roofs that constantly need to be replaced all across america. i&#8217;m sure you&#8217;re on the right track even just thinking of using something real on your roof now you have to weed out all the liars and find someone who is real and capable of installing your roof properly. TEST everyone! don&#8217;t forget this is a buyers market. look at their work, talk to their customers. if they say it&#8217;s going to last 30yrs demand to see the 30yr old roof. this simple tip should weed out 90% of the fakers&#8230;..ask them if they will install cedar on a plywood deck if they say yes walk away. the most important thing about installing any kind of wood roof is breathe-ability. anyone qualified to install a wood roof should understand this completely. i wish you all the best. i travel anywhere for real roofs but i&#8217;m not cheap. i know guys in a lot of states if you&#8217;re interested in a referral feel free to email me. but you can find all of this on your own if you just make the TRUTH your guide.<br /><b>References : </b><br />15yrs experience installing permanent natural roofs</p>
<p><a href="http://www.youtube.com/user/REALSLATER" rel="nofollow">http://www.youtube.com/user/REALSLATER</a></p>
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		<title>Comment on what is the price of a new cedar shake roof for a 3600 sq ft home? by s</title>
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		<dc:creator>s</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Sep 2011 11:03:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>All kinds of Solutions are there AB General Contractors NY provides numerous construction services to make it a one-stop shop for all your construction needs. Some of the construction services we provide include AB General  Contractors NY, Restoration Contractors NY, Renovation NY and Concrete Contractors NY 
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Address:  10 Waterside Plaza Suite 36B Manhattan NY, 10010&lt;br&gt;&lt;b&gt;References : &lt;/b&gt;&lt;br&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>All kinds of Solutions are there AB General Contractors NY provides numerous construction services to make it a one-stop shop for all your construction needs. Some of the construction services we provide include AB General  Contractors NY, Restoration Contractors NY, Renovation NY and Concrete Contractors NY<br />
AB General Contractors, New York City<br />
Tel:718)-288-2248, (212)-380-1311<br />
Fax:(718)-502-8521<br />
E-mail:abdesignbuild@gmail.com<br />
<a href="mailto:info@abcontractorsny.com">info@abcontractorsny.com</a><br />
<a href="mailto:marketing@abcontractorsny.com">marketing@abcontractorsny.com</a><br />
Address:  10 Waterside Plaza Suite 36B Manhattan NY, 10010<br /><b>References : </b></p>
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		<title>Comment on what is the price of a new cedar shake roof for a 3600 sq ft home? by Karen L</title>
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		<dc:creator>Karen L</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Sep 2011 10:56:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Better get a roofer out to estimate. I can tell you that someone I know in Victoria BC got quotes a couple of years ago for replacing his shake roof, on a home a bit smaller, one storey with no dormers or anything, and if I remember right it was somewhere in the $50,000 range. Might have been more. It was enough to make him choke and he is not short of money. The HOA where he lived required everyone to replace with original materials, and he was the first homeowner in that exclusive and expensive little enclave to need a new roof. I think when he presented his roof estimates and everyone realized that they would soon be facing similar bills, they agreed to change the rules.&lt;br&gt;&lt;b&gt;References : &lt;/b&gt;&lt;br&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Better get a roofer out to estimate. I can tell you that someone I know in Victoria BC got quotes a couple of years ago for replacing his shake roof, on a home a bit smaller, one storey with no dormers or anything, and if I remember right it was somewhere in the $50,000 range. Might have been more. It was enough to make him choke and he is not short of money. The HOA where he lived required everyone to replace with original materials, and he was the first homeowner in that exclusive and expensive little enclave to need a new roof. I think when he presented his roof estimates and everyone realized that they would soon be facing similar bills, they agreed to change the rules.<br /><b>References : </b></p>
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		<title>Comment on what is the price of a new cedar shake roof for a 3600 sq ft home? by Joe</title>
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		<dc:creator>Joe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Sep 2011 10:48:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>be care full with cedar shakes check with your local building or fire dept for wood shakes most areas do not allow non fire rated roof material&lt;br&gt;&lt;b&gt;References : &lt;/b&gt;&lt;br&gt;building inspector and contractor</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>be care full with cedar shakes check with your local building or fire dept for wood shakes most areas do not allow non fire rated roof material<br /><b>References : </b><br />building inspector and contractor</p>
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		<title>Comment on what is the price of a new cedar shake roof for a 3600 sq ft home? by Dale</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dale</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Sep 2011 10:07:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Here in northern Michigan I get $70.00 per 100 square feet for  tear off, and $271.00 per 100 square feet for labor and material for cedar shingles.  Cedar Shakes are much higher in price.  I hope  this helps. Also the square footage of you home will not be the same for the area of the roof, the pitch of the roof will determine area.  Regards,  Dale&lt;br&gt;&lt;b&gt;References : &lt;/b&gt;&lt;br&gt;I&#039;m a builder</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Here in northern Michigan I get $70.00 per 100 square feet for  tear off, and $271.00 per 100 square feet for labor and material for cedar shingles.  Cedar Shakes are much higher in price.  I hope  this helps. Also the square footage of you home will not be the same for the area of the roof, the pitch of the roof will determine area.  Regards,  Dale<br /><b>References : </b><br />I&#8217;m a builder</p>
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		<title>Comment on what is the price of a new cedar shake roof for a 3600 sq ft home? by brad</title>
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		<dc:creator>brad</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Sep 2011 09:20:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Cedar shake is very expensive.  3600sq ft doesn&#039;t really tell me how big your roof is.  Typically, for regular asphalt shingles, you&#039;d be looking at 200+/sq. (10&#039;x10&#039;) for tear off and replace.  For cedar add $$$, for every gable, dormer, and every inch of roof pitch over 8/12 (8in rise, 12in run) add $$$.  Is your current roof in decent shape?  Will you need to replace plywood or roof planks?  Add $$$.  

My advice as a former roofer is to find a good 30year asphalt shingle (they even make some that look like cedar) and hire a reputable roofer.  He will be more expensive but you will get what you pay for.&lt;br&gt;&lt;b&gt;References : &lt;/b&gt;&lt;br&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Cedar shake is very expensive.  3600sq ft doesn&#8217;t really tell me how big your roof is.  Typically, for regular asphalt shingles, you&#8217;d be looking at 200+/sq. (10&#8242;x10&#8242;) for tear off and replace.  For cedar add $$$, for every gable, dormer, and every inch of roof pitch over 8/12 (8in rise, 12in run) add $$$.  Is your current roof in decent shape?  Will you need to replace plywood or roof planks?  Add $$$.  </p>
<p>My advice as a former roofer is to find a good 30year asphalt shingle (they even make some that look like cedar) and hire a reputable roofer.  He will be more expensive but you will get what you pay for.<br /><b>References : </b></p>
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