Roofing Estimates are a Starting Point for Negotiations

May 19th, 2010



Roofing Estimates

A roof is one of the more expensive aspects of owning a home. While a new roof can last upwards of 20 years before needing to be replaced or repaired, violent weather can turn a nice roof into a dented, torn up mess within a matter of minutes. Finding a roof repair company is as simple as opening the phone book and dialing up the first company listed. But how do you know you’re getting the best price? The savvy way to find a roofer is to call around and have roofers come out and give a Roofing Estimate. You may be surprised at the differences in costs and completion timeframes quoted by the roofers.

Contact a Variety of Roofers

There are a few ways to decide which roofers to contact for estimates. The obvious choice is asking people you know for recommendations. If one roofer is repeatedly recommended, add him to your list. Then check out the phone book and pick roofers from both large and small companies. Just because a company has the largest advertisement doesn’t mean they offer the best services and prices.

Smaller, independent roofing companies may be easier to negotiate with than larger companies with lots of clients. Check the want ads for roofers who are looking for work. Some experienced roofers may be starting out in their own company and need to build up a clientele and will offer lower prices and quality service.

Benefits of Understanding How a Roofer Bids a Job

For homeowners unfamiliar with the roofing process, it’s a good idea to get a basic understanding of how a roofer evaluates a job and decides on a roofing estimate. When a roofer first evaluates your home, he is looking at the extent of the damage along with the amount of work involved to fix or replace the roof. The amount of shingles needing to be torn off, water damaged areas, decking damage, and structural damage to turbines or chimneys are all evaluated when making an estimate.

The size of the roof will be factored in also, and the roofer will estimate the amount of supplies needed. He will also guess the amount of time needed for either him or his crew to finish the job. Depending on the size of the company, a roofer may need only a few days or a few weeks if working with a skeleton crew. The estimate will also include markup on materials and the fees associated with cleaning up and dumping the old roofing materials.

Negotiate and Get the Estimate in Writing

Once the roofer gives you a verbal estimate, it’s time to see if he’ll negotiate any of his fees. For roofing repairs going through the insurance process, you may ask him to waive the insurance deductible in his estimate cost. Cheaper items, such as metal edging and felt, may also be negotiable. Depending on the size of the job, some contractors may be willing to reduce the price of cheaper items, or even include them at no charge.

One of the best ways to negotiate is to use one estimate against another. If there is a company you like better but the roofer estimates a much higher amount than the former company, see if he’s willing to meet or come fairly close to the estimate of the other company.

Once the estimate is decided upon, make sure the roofer provides you with a written copy of the roofing estimate on an official business form. This can help control rising costs and is legal proof of the estimated cost. Avoid roofers who won’t provide a written estimate. While estimates aren’t set in stone, negotiations and discussion of the job can help insure you don’t pay more than the estimate.

How to Shop Around for a Roof Repair Company

May 18th, 2010

Roofing Repair

Owning a home means that there are always projects to do around the house for maintenance and repair. Roof replacement and repair is often times a larger expense than other home projects. Since a brand new roof can be destroyed in a matter of seconds during a hurricane or other volatile weather system, homeowners may find themselves needing a roofer sooner than expected. The phone book and local classified ads are an easy way to find a roofer, but it’s no guarantee that you’re getting the best price or service. A roofing estimate from different companies will give you a better idea about cost and the services offered for that cost from different roofing businesses.

Get Recommendations and Schedule an Estimate

Talking with friends and family is a great way to get recommendations for roofers. You can also ask neighbors who have recently had roof repairs who they used and what they thought of the service. The next option is to call a few businesses found in the phone book. Schedule estimates with both large and small companies to get the best idea on prices.

The newspaper’s local classifieds section is another place to find roofers. Newer roofers and those with a smaller marketing budget may put work wanted ads in the paper as opposed to a large flashy ad in the phonebook or on a billboard. Just because a company is smaller doesn’t mean the work lacks quality.

Discuss the Extent of Damage and Services Needed for Repair

When a roofer shows up to provide a Roofing Estimate, the first thing he’ll need to know is what the problem is and how it happened. He’ll then evaluate the roof and figure out exactly what needs to be replaced or repaired. Water damage, structural damages, and shingle work are areas all included in the estimate.

The roofer will measure the roof and use those measurements to estimate how much supplies are needed and the average cost of those supplies. The size of the roof and the extent of damage will also affect how long the roofer will need to finish the job, so he will calculate labor costs into his estimate. Any extra fees, such as trash collection and dumping, will also go into the estimate.

Ask for a Hard Copy of the Estimate

You can get a general idea of the estimate verbally and then negotiate costs before he provides a written estimate. Some fees to negotiate include insurance deductibles, cheaper supplies such as edging, and disposal costs if you agree to cleanup and dispose of the materials yourself.

A jumping off point for negotiations includes another company’s estimate. In order to stay competitive and not lose out on a job, a roofer may be willing to match another roofer’s estimate or lower their initial estimate to make it more competitive.

A verbal estimate does not hold up in a court of law. A roofer must give you a written, hard copy estimate in order for it to be a contractual agreement. Once all of the negotiations are over and both you and the roofer are happy with the final roofing estimate, he should give you an official written estimate. You can fall back on this should costs rise considerably during the job. Never work with a roofer who refuses to provide a written contract.

Get Multiple Roofing Estimates Before Choosing a Roofer

May 18th, 2010

Roofing Damage

Roof disasters can happen virtually overnight. Especially if a large hail or ice storm or some other turbulent weather wreaks havoc on roof shingles or the overall structure of the roof. Since many homeowners need help with roof repairs, calling a local company or using your friend’s roofer is inevitable. But should you go with the first roofer in the phone book or the guy your dad’s used for years without first getting a roofing estimate from a variety of roof companies? The answer is no. You should shop around and make sure that you’re getting the best service for the best price before hiring a roofer. Every roofer has their own techniques and preferred brand of materials they use, and the cost of higher-priced materials will only be added to your bill, even if less expensive materials will work just as well.

Check Out Roofers from Different Companies

If you speak with people about picking a roofer, they will all most likely have a different recommendation. It’s a good idea to get estimates from roofers for which you have a personal recommendation, but don’t forget to call around and speak with other companies. The phone book and newspaper are full of large and small roofing companies eager to offer an estimate on your roof repairs.

A smaller company may be easier to work with because they don’t get the same amount of off-the-street clients as larger companies who work off brand recognition do. An independent roofer may be willing to negotiate certain fees and provide more individualized attention.

Understand What an Estimate Entails

It’s easier for a homeowner to understand the final roofing estimate cost if he or she understands what the roofer is evaluating during the appointment. For repairs, a roofer will assess the extent of the damage and determine the supplies and labor needed to make the repairs. If structures such as chimneys or flues will affect the repair process, the roofer will factor in the added labor or supplies needed.

For roof replacements the size of the roof will be measured, and the roofer will used rounded figures to determine the amount of supplies, the cost of labor, and extra fees associated with replacing the roof. Based on local fees, a roofer may include the charges he incurs for cleaning up, collecting, and disposing of old roofing materials.

Discuss Fees and Request a Written Estimate

After the roofer evaluates the roof and makes all the necessary calculations, it’s time to start negotiations. Estimates are usually the highest price offered by the roofer, so there is some wiggle room to negotiate a lower cost. For repairs being covered by home insurance, the roofer may be willing to negate your deductible cost. You may also be able to reduce or negate the cost of cheaper materials and trash collection in the overall estimate.

When shopping around for estimates, it’s a good idea to mention cheaper estimates you’ve received from other roofers. To avoid losing a job to a competing roofing company, a roofer may be willing to match or even go lower than another roofer’s estimate.

The final aspect of the estimate is to receive a written Roofing Estimate on company letter head. Should the roofer fail to meet the agreement, this contract will act as legal proof of the agreement between you and the roofer. A roofer who won’t provide a legal, written estimate isn’t reliable and should be avoided.

Why pay-freeze the civil servants then stand by and watch the price of living go through the roof?

October 13th, 2011

Gas, electricity, oil, pensions etc. Whats going on?
Greed is what brought about the economic collapse, and now they are at it again.

The advantages of Public Sector wages to Private Sector wages are :

1) On average 10% more
2) More perks (flexi time, holidays, sickness benefit etc..)
3) Better pension contributions.

Maybe not in all cases but in the majority of cases, the above applies.

Can’t afford this difference anymore so it’s about time the public sector are brought into the real world.

I had a roofing company come out to take a look at my roof last week,they gave me a decent estimate?

October 13th, 2011

they really wanted my business so much,that they wanted me to get a home equity loan.I told them that I had bad credit.They were undeterred they said that they could get me a loan that would cover 13 years.I didn’t with them.The question that I have should I be suspicious when a roofing company tells me that they can get me a loan when everybody else says that I can’t /Any suggestions,ideas?

I wouldn’t trust them. They sound shady. Find another roofing company. These guys are up to something. Bet when the actual time comes to repair, that estimate is going to go up higher. They probably give a decent estimate to get you to trust them then they pull this home loan thing on you and then you trust them to do your roof but then they’ll jack up the price as time goes on.
There are other roofing companies out there who will give you a decent price without the shady side dealings.

what is the price of a new cedar shake roof for a 3600 sq ft home?

September 21st, 2011

waht is typically the labor cost for tearing the old roof and installing the new roof.

Here in northern Michigan I get $70.00 per 100 square feet for tear off, and $271.00 per 100 square feet for labor and material for cedar shingles. Cedar Shakes are much higher in price. I hope this helps. Also the square footage of you home will not be the same for the area of the roof, the pitch of the roof will determine area. Regards, Dale

How much, approxitmately, would a 9′x15′ add-on roof cost?

September 2nd, 2011

We have to replace an add-on roof,a 9′x15′ sq ft area. We aren’t using a rubber roof, just the black paper and tar. We were quoted a price, including the cost of materials. I would love to get some feedback on this subject. Thanks.

Ravenrose, my feedback would not be accurate as the cost GREATLY varies by location. So, your best bet would stick to making an apples-to-apples comparison by getting more free estimates.

As it is, there are plenty of local roofing contractors seeking to give free estimates with no obligation, and taking advantage of this is the consumer-smart way to go about finding an accurate answer to your question

Getting the free estimates is key to getting a fair deal. Here’s a great link to a handyman site that offers free very resourceful information to assist you in your project, and, ultimately, select a local roofing contractor in an effort to get the best deal for you:

ROOFING CONTRACTOR INFO:

http://yourhandymanzone.com/Your_Handyman_Zone_Free_Estimates_Roofing.htm

I’m sure you’ll find the information you need, specifically the tips, useful as it relates to being treated fairly by contractors and exploring the consumer-wise approach of getting free written estimates to find the best contractor in your area.

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Source(s):
The Internet. Just whatever is available online and what I have on my mind, including the inclusion of relevant sites, like the one cited that came about from my efforts, which is intended to be useful. Helping people get the relevant info they want is great.

How much is an average price to charge as a Roofing sub-contractor, doing asbestos tear-off and disposal?

August 19th, 2011

I have 6 guys handling this stuff ,I buy masks but i dont get paid any more than normal,but kinda think i should pay more to the guys doing work.

I would think that would depend on where you are working, the competition for work where ever that is and the size of the roof. If you kinda think you should pay more to the guys doing the work, that is fine, take it out of your cut. They obviously don’t have a problem because they are working for you and certainly I don’t think there is an employee who would say no to more money. They might have a problem if you charge the clients more which can lead to less work (and less pay) for them.

Does anyone know of a good roofing company in Kansas City?

August 6th, 2011

Our home was recently damaged by hail a few weeks back and we still cannot decide on a roofing company to use. If anyone lives in the area of Kansas City can you please advise us on who we should contact or where we can find some further fair roof repair estimates?

Most services, including the BBB, are pay to play services. Ask your neighbors, co-workers, etc… Use a large local roofing company. Check your insurance companies website for preferred vendors. Big local companies like Pyramid, Bordner, etc….

I live in Portland OR metro area. Have a roof that needs replaced (tear off). What would be a fair price?

August 3rd, 2011

The house is a split level, 2 car garage roof pitch isn’t very steep, your typical pitch for a ranch style house. The total surface area is about 2600 sq ft. I’m going to get some estimates but I wanted possibly some ballpark figures from folks who know the area on what would be a fair price most roofing contractors would charge for a job like this. Looking for about a 30 year comp shingle roof.

In Seattle 2 years ago I paid about $8,500 for 25 squares (10 x 10). This included everything from start to finish including permits, 30 yr shingles, clean up and dumping, tearing off the old plywood and replacing with new 1/2 inch, plus replacing a couple broken rafters. It was a fair price for an excellent job. Only took them 3 days.